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	<title>Comments on: God’s Law and Jesus’ love — part 3</title>
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		<title>By: E. Stephen Burnett</title>
		<link>http://www.yehaveheard.com/2010/03/gods-law-and-jesus-love-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Stephen Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for a great comment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brief note, for those who may not know the Christ-emphasis of this site or the contents of the other columns in the series: &lt;em&gt;none&lt;/em&gt; of this should be construed as enacting nothing but Law against Christians. The same Christ Who told us we break God&#039;s real Law far more &lt;em&gt;easily&lt;/em&gt; than we might think, &lt;em&gt;also&lt;/em&gt; offers Himself as the perfect fulfillment of that Law. Scripture is clear: because of the Law, we know our sin, and because Christ came, preached His kingdom, died and resurrected, we can know our Savior from sin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the best reasons I&#039;ve heard is that we can still discern the intents behind some of the more time-specific laws, such as putting parapets around the roofs of your house -- care for houseguests, who might otherwise fall off while staying up there. (Of course, here the death penalty is still hotly contested).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for what is the difference between moral law (such as the Ten Commandments) and ceremonial law, one of the keys seems to be whether something is repeated in the New Testament. For example, the famous ban on wearing clothes made of mixed fabrics could be seen as being fulfilled in Christ and no longer binding.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Better still, Jesus specifically addresses the prohibitions on certain foods later in Mark 7: 18-19: &lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;“&lt;/span&gt;And he said to them, &lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&#039;Then are you also without  understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from  outside cannot defile him,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;since it enters not his  heart but his stomach, and is expelled?&#039;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;(Thus he  declared all foods clean.)&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;” This is reinforced by &lt;/span&gt;Peter&#039;s vision in Acts 11. Its main goal was to show him that Gentiles would now become part of the Church, but a secondary purpose is that all foods are clean.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the most direct transferences of Old-Testament laws is from the original commandments against homosexual practice in Leviticus. That is directly carried over into Romans 1, making it clear God&#039;s moral law still prohibits it today (though there is no mention of human-imposed penalties for the practice, as mandated to original Israel).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is why I think Christians ought to avoid the whole Law-explanation with nonbelievers (often we struggle to get it ourselves!) and focus on what Paul says in Romans. It&#039;s a clear indication that rejection of God leads to that sin and many others.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great comment.</p>
<p>Brief note, for those who may not know the Christ-emphasis of this site or the contents of the other columns in the series: <em>none</em> of this should be construed as enacting nothing but Law against Christians. The same Christ Who told us we break God&#8217;s real Law far more <em>easily</em> than we might think, <em>also</em> offers Himself as the perfect fulfillment of that Law. Scripture is clear: because of the Law, we know our sin, and because Christ came, preached His kingdom, died and resurrected, we can know our Savior from sin.</p>
<p>One of the best reasons I&#8217;ve heard is that we can still discern the intents behind some of the more time-specific laws, such as putting parapets around the roofs of your house &#8212; care for houseguests, who might otherwise fall off while staying up there. (Of course, here the death penalty is still hotly contested).</p>
<p>As for what is the difference between moral law (such as the Ten Commandments) and ceremonial law, one of the keys seems to be whether something is repeated in the New Testament. For example, the famous ban on wearing clothes made of mixed fabrics could be seen as being fulfilled in Christ and no longer binding.</p>
<p>Better still, Jesus specifically addresses the prohibitions on certain foods later in Mark 7: 18-19: <span class="woc">“</span>And he said to them, <span class="woc">&#8216;Then are you also without  understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from  outside cannot defile him,</span> <span class="woc">since it enters not his  heart but his stomach, and is expelled?&#8217;<span class="footnote"> </span></span>(Thus he  declared all foods clean.)<span class="woc">” This is reinforced by </span>Peter&#8217;s vision in Acts 11. Its main goal was to show him that Gentiles would now become part of the Church, but a secondary purpose is that all foods are clean.</p>
<p>One of the most direct transferences of Old-Testament laws is from the original commandments against homosexual practice in Leviticus. That is directly carried over into Romans 1, making it clear God&#8217;s moral law still prohibits it today (though there is no mention of human-imposed penalties for the practice, as mandated to original Israel).</p>
<p>This is why I think Christians ought to avoid the whole Law-explanation with nonbelievers (often we struggle to get it ourselves!) and focus on what Paul says in Romans. It&#8217;s a clear indication that rejection of God leads to that sin and many others.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Sams</title>
		<link>http://www.yehaveheard.com/2010/03/gods-law-and-jesus-love-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Sams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. I&#039;m curious about one thing, though--you say , in effect, (and I agree) that Christians ought to keep the Law; that is, we ought to be conformed to the image of Christ who perfecly fulfilled all of it. But what about the ceremonial laws, such as circumcision, cleansing, abstention from unclean foods? I don&#039;t think many Christians deem the ceremonial laws relevant under the New Covenant, especially in light of Paul&#039;s various repudiations of the Judaizers--but how exactly do we distinguish between a law that is ceremonial and pictorial and &lt;em&gt;the&lt;/em&gt; Law that is actually the expression of the character of God?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. I&#8217;m curious about one thing, though&#8211;you say , in effect, (and I agree) that Christians ought to keep the Law; that is, we ought to be conformed to the image of Christ who perfecly fulfilled all of it. But what about the ceremonial laws, such as circumcision, cleansing, abstention from unclean foods? I don&#8217;t think many Christians deem the ceremonial laws relevant under the New Covenant, especially in light of Paul&#8217;s various repudiations of the Judaizers&#8211;but how exactly do we distinguish between a law that is ceremonial and pictorial and <em>the</em> Law that is actually the expression of the character of God?</p>
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